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Sunday, November 4, 2007

COLLEGE FOOTBALL WRAP-UP, BCS RANKINGS COMING OUT TONIGHT!



Look for the new BCS Poll to be released right here on Mud Free Sports at 7:30pm Sunday! With Boston College losing to everyone's grandpa, Bobby Bowden, and Florida State, LSU's win over Alabama, Oregon rolling previously unbeaten Arizona State and Kansas hand husking Nebraska, things in the BCS should get all worked over today. Props to Florida State going on the road and stuffing #2 Boston College, exposing them. Look for Kansas to take a BIG leap in the polls. I see it as #1 Ohio State, #2 Oregon, #3 LSU, #4 Kansas, #5 Oklahoma. Kansas may sneek up to #3 for the 76 points they hung on Nebraska. Major Props also goes out to Navy for dismantling Notre Dame in 3 overtimes. They should have a "Once Proud, Now Sucky" Bowl...Syracuse vs. Notre Dame...over/under would be 7 points. Look for an article later today on which coaches are on the hot seat...there are many!! If you have any you would like to suggest, drop me a note right here on the comment screen.

10 comments:

Ian Fisk said...

I agree that Kansas should jump big-time, although Nebraska wasn't ranked. LSU has been winning by the skin of their teeth for several weeks in a row, and it's only right that they slide a spot or even two spots down to #4. A win is a win, but if the BCS system is worth a damn it should move Oregon to #2 on the strength of two consecutive victories over solid top ten opponents.

What do you think of the inequity created by the big 12 and sec championship games? Are all teams now playing a twelve game schedule? If not, the teams that play an extra game for conference championships will have an opportunity to score more BCS points. What's up with that?

Andrew said...

I would say "Poor Notre Dame," but that would denote sympathy - something I am fresh out of for the Foldin' Irish.

I agree that Oregon should leapfrog LSU for the #2 spot. They are inches and something other than the worst luck ever away from being undefeated with a varitable Who's Who of top 25 teams in their wake. The aforementioned consecutive wins over perennial powerhouse USC and an undefeated ASU should be enough to get them over the SEC bias hump. Sure the SEC has earned that bias, but they aren't living up to it this year.

Ian Fisk said...

Well the polls are out, and the crock is once again filled to the brim with anti-Pac 10 media bias: Oregon is 3rd while LSU moved to #2.
Any side by side of these teams should have Oregon ahead. We can call strength of schedule a wash since Oregon is 12th and LSU 13th, and of course their records are even at 8-1. But let's look at the fact that Oregon just finished off two top tens in a row, including the unbeaten ASU yesterday. Oregon never trailed against either ASU or USC, whereas LSU had to pull cat out of the bag to beat #17 Alabama. Naturally that win seems big as it was against Coach Saban, but look at ASU's Coach, Dennis Erickson, a national championship and Fiesta Bowl winner. His record and prestige certainly stand up to Nick Saban. The bottom line is that Oregon has been solid in recent big victories over top-10 teams, and LSU has certainly not been as solid. With record and schedule being even, why shouldn't Oregon be ahead? Well, we all know that the sports media is still stacked against the Pac-10. Don't ask me why, we've had a national champion 3 of the past 4 years and two Heisman winners in this decade. Still no respect, as this poll indicates. But really this is ok for Oregon, who should still be highly motivated to prove they belong in the championship. They will have to win big over their remaining opponents to finally get their shot at the title. And hopefully Michigan knocks off Ohio State!

Stump said...

Thanks for your comments...The SEC seems to get a pass for all of their teams. Most teams in a conference without a championship game play 12 games. Bad news for Syracuse ...
hahaha. Did you see what Rich Brooks said during the Oregon game yesterday. He said Kentucky didn't have as far to go to hit the bigtime like Oregon. He knows and we all know...if you are in the SEC, put together a good record, and win one or two big games you will be in the Top 10. Connecticut has one loss and can get above 13. They beat Rutgers, South Florida, and Louisville. They have all fallen by the wayside lately, but still big names at some point in the season. The PAC-10 is a great league and is making a big name for themselves this year. I still think Kansas should be #1 or #2! Oh check out the rankings at this link.... http://mudfreesports.blogspot.com/2007/11/bcs-poll-ranking-top-25-college.html

Ian Fisk said...

Stump - I appreciate your respect for the Pac-10. It is not just this year that this conference has made a name for itself, if you look at USC's recent dominance and the steady success of teams like Oregon, Cal, Arizona State and even Oregon State, who took then respectable Notre Dame 38-9 in the Fiesta Bowl a few years back.

Although I think Kansas deserves to be highly ranked, a look at their opponents shows why they are rightfully below Oregon. Kansas' non-conference opponents were Florida International (rank 178) SE Louisiana (a AA team rank 202), Central Michigan (71) and Toledo (109). Oregon's non-conference schedule included Houston (70), Fresno St. (73) and Michigan, which hasn't lost since. In all, Kansas' strength of schedule is ranked 112th to Oregon's 12th. Oregon's only loss was a close one to Cal, a team then in the top 5. So to me it is legitimate that Oregon is still ahead of Kansas.
I already made my argument for why Oregon should be #2 ahead of LSU, but obviously the LSU and SEC bias won't allow that yet. So I suppose that LSU will have to lose again, even if Oregon wins out. This is unjust and continues to point out the inaccurate nature of BCS rankings and an obvious desire to see LSU play at home for the national championship in the Superdome.
I think the BCS is an improvement over the previous arrangement which was a complete popularity contest. And I'm not entirely convinced that playoffs are the answer. The BCS does make all games important, as the Appalachian State upset of Michigan points out. Perhaps the Pac-10 teams should play all of their non-conference games against major conference opponents, including Big-12 and SEC teams. Which leads me to one other point. There should be a regulation limiting teams to only three non-conference opponents. Kansas played four, including a AA team, and will have the opportunity to play an extra game if they make it to the Big-12 championship.
Should the PAC-10 maybe add two teams from the WAC, like Boise St. and maybe BYU? Then split into two divisions and play a championship game? What is it going to take to get the recognition we deserve?
One more final point: Preseason and early season polls must be shit-canned. Based on suppositions and previous years performance, these do nothing but give some teams an unfair head start in the system. I fail to understand the purpose of polls based on expectations rather than performance. And performance doesn't mean much over the first few games which are often against soft non-conference opponents. So if we are going to continue using polls at all, they should at least not be a factor until week five or six when teams have had a chance to prove their worthiness.
Thanks for the opportunity to rant!

Ian Fisk said...

Can't resist one more point (or question.) Let's suppose next week LSU beats Louisiana Tech (ranked 106th) by a blow-out of say 44-10, and Oregon beats Arizona (ranked 69th) by a lesser score say 34-17. Should Oregon jump LSU? I'd say so, but I also predict that the popularity contest will once again prevail and keep LSU on their seemingly inevitable track to the championship game in their home state. At that point I'd have to suppose that this is all about Hurricane Katrina sympathy. Maybe Oregon needs a horrible flood to gain some national attention! Well, I guess I'll wait until next week to see. Oregon will have a chance to strut their stuff on national TV on Thursday the 16th against Arizona. May they kick the hell out of the Wildcats!

Stump said...

Ian, you were doing ok until you brought up the Katrina thing. I have never thought that! I believe its a SEC Bias and that is it. Their PR department has done a good job feeding people to the media to toot their horns. And we suck it up. Where would the Big East be if it didn't take the PR hit when Miami, BC, and Va. Tech. left? Its all about PR, just ask President Bush, who has none. Look, I think all conferences should go 11 games and play a championship game and then figure out a playoff between all major conferences and 2 at large teams, ie. Hawaii. As far as pre-season poll...hate 'em...but the moment USA TODAY/ESPN stops, someone else will step in and do it. We won't get rid of them, just have to believe that everything will play itself out. Look, there is a chance we could see UCONN vs. Michigan in a BCS Bowl! Maybe even the championship game. Imagine if Michigan beats Ohio State how many votes and computer points they will get. If UCONN runs the table, they are Big East Champs and going to BCS Bowl. There are so many possibilities out there, it will be fun to see. Oregon should be fine, but we will wait and see.

Ian Fisk said...

OK I admit the Katrina thing was a stretch. It was an exaggeration, and I can't help but hit the conspiracy crack pipe now and then. But I don't think it's as far-fetched to think that the majority of sports media, not to mention the advertisers, would prefer to see LSU in the championship, especially over Oregon. ESPN has given Oregon plenty of hype, with Lee "who says we're not descendants of the apes" Corso donning the Duck mascot yesterday. If I wasn't an Oregon freak I'd be disgusted by that show, and the mascot in general. Proud as I am to be a Duck, I don't know whether to laugh or hide in shame when Disney gets into the picture.
Anyway, I'll try to inhale deeply and keep my fingers crossed that the media doesn't play skeet with the Ducks championship dream, and that the Ducks earn their way into it by running the table.

Stump said...

Crack pipe is foe, not friend IAN!! Look, the way I see it, there is a lot of talk that leads up to the bowl pairings, but for the most part it works out. Don't get to worked up until then. Find your pusher and get some downers...that'll calm your nerves!

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